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2009-06-03 00:57:53
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About the Elftown ads

As seen on <URL:donate.html>, Elftown is run on hardware bought from donations from its users, so why are there ads?

The thing is that Elftown's server ([Elftron]) is quite hungry for both electricity and bandwidth. And since it became too much trouble to have it at Linköping University with power-failures, restrictions on what to do with the server and that it's located far from where anyone can fix the hardware problems (and locked in during weekends for anyone who cares), someone else than the university has to pay for it.

So because the donations are meant for buying new hardware, it feels wrong to use them keeping Elftown running.

So therefore there are ads at the following places:

1) When you log out from Elftown on top of your house. If Google does its job well, the ads should be accourding to what you've written in your presentation, but so far Google seems to do a bad job at it.

2) To the right of wiki-pages unless you're logged in. Logged in Elftowners who help producing the wiki-pages don't get any ads.

3) At the bottom of the different news-pages (<URI:news.html>, <URI:poems.html>, <URI:featured_member.html>, <URI:featured_wiki-pages.html> and <URI:drawings.html>). At least at the drawing and poem pages, the ads seem to be close to the subject so someone might actually enjoy the ads.

I thought of having ads on the entrance page, but as that page is an advertisement for Elftown, it seems like a bad idea. It's better with a new Elftowner than a click on an ad.

About clicking on the ads
For the Google ads, Elftown gets income for every time someone clicks on them. What ads that are served depends on the content on the page their are shown on and what you click on. If you avoid clicking on your favourite shop's ads, then they have to pay much more for every click to be seen, and if you click a lot on some ad, that advertiser gets the clicks cheaper.

The Project Wonderful and the other ads on the bottom of pages are not paid per click at all, but per impression.

The links in the Elftown Mall (<URL:mall.html>) don't give Elftown a shit unless you buy something following those links.

What do you think?
About the Google Ads (logout and news-pages):

About the Project Wonderful ads (Right bottom and Mainstreet):

The ads (bottom):

The big ugly ad at the bottom (Might not always be seen):

The Elftown Mall (<URL:mall.html>):

Update 2009-01-17

I'm trying out some new ads now. The Elftown Mall (<URL:mall.html>) hasn't sold one single item yet and both [Hedda], Lilo and [Elftron] need food and shelter.

There is some word-ads from Kontera that appear on exported wiki-pages. They give very little money per click, but I personally don't think they are in the way, but I've heard other opinions, but not from Elftowners.

There is a huge totally annoying ad that pops up when you move to the top-links (after 3 seconds after the pages is loaded) now. I'm not sure if it will be irritating and I'll test it out myself now. (Update That is removed now)

Another ad...

Now there is a link at the bottom of the pages from
These ads basically gives Elftown's ad (Right now looking like the exposure on other sites. The more that is is viewed and clicked on, the more Elftown's ad is shown on other sites. I'll try it for a while at least. All these ads should point to science fiction sites, so they should at least be remotely interesting.

As for the Chitica and Kontera ads, I think I'll be removing them. There are some other ads that needs removal too, because they don't give anything.

Even more ad test... (2009-01-19)

Sorry about this, but I have to try out some ads. There is a big one at the bottom of pages now. I think I'll switch between that and the Project Wonderful ads (and remove the MyStarship ad), but not have both at the same time. Update: ADSDAQ said that Elftown is a filthy piece of shit and that they want nothing to do with it. Maybe because they fucking morons that don't like the language we use here. So no ads from there, which I guess is just as well as their ads tend to be annoying. Eh... Wait, it says: "Domain is primarily a social networking application" as one of the possible reasons. I bloody selected that as a type of site and then it isn't OK. Grrr! Wasting my time.

More stuff (2009-01-20)

There are also AdEngage ads at the bottom now. It isn't more ads, but it's replacing the left Wonderful Project and MyStarship ads a little. So now you get three kind of ads on that place. Should make it more interesting than seeing the same ad/kind of ads all the time.

I got a really good deal here, and I really hope you like it and want to take a few minutes to try it out at least:


8 votes

(Seems like no one likes it. I honestly can say I blame you. There are no shortage of free really good games to play (See some other ads here.).)

Message ads

(2008-02-19) There are now an ad in your messages. Seems like the Elftowners spend a huge part of their time (about 4%) on checking if people can read their messages yet. So I though they can just as well spend some time on watching some ads if they are that bored... The ads should be somewhat targeted at your interest if you have the right ones selected. (poetry, hunting, cats, physics, board games, beer, whisky, LARP, dogs, fashion, stocks, operas, wines, fishing, knitting, Mac and Linux are the ones used now and everyone gets ads about fantasy and scifi, of course).

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2008-08-05 [NOOOPE]: ADS.

Sorry, I just wanted to be the first. Yey for money?

2008-08-06 [Neferoth, the lethargic stigmata]: Yeah.. I'm just confused because on the side there was an add for House.. And under, was an add for.. House.. Just my two cents. Google really didn't do a good job. =/

2008-08-09 [nokaredes]: Fixed a typo :)

2008-08-23 [Imperator]: I was so excited when I saw ads after I logged out! How much will this suplement the donations?

2008-08-23 [Artsieladie]: I understand the need for ads. I so wish I could help more with the costs for Elftown. <img:stuff/cr-gif.gif>

2008-08-25 [Hedda]: It will not be added to the donations. The ads will pay for the hosting of Elftown. Just as I've written above.

2008-08-26 [Imperator]: But how much is Elftown earning from the ads?

2008-08-29 [Hedda]: Nothing. The deal is that I have the ads there for the hosting.

2008-08-30 [Imperator]: Well certainly there's a price on hosting? I'm just curious here...

2008-08-31 [Hedda]: Yes, the price is the ads.

2008-08-31 [Imperator]: ... Fine then. How much did it cost to host Elftown before the ads?

2008-08-31 [Hedda]: It costed nothing for Elftown as I personally paid for it, and before that Linköpng University paid for it.

I pay 320 SEK/month for my internet connection plus about 150 SEK/month for powering the [Elftron]. Unfortunately I can't get more than one Internet connection, unless I pay for another flat, and that's too expensive. 

2008-09-01 [Imperator]: SEK? What does that stand for? Isn't Sweden on the Euro?

2008-09-01 [Hedda]: Do I have to write SEK? You'll get so much better answers from Google than me.

2008-09-01 [Neferoth, the lethargic stigmata]: Because Google knows all!.. ;>>

2008-09-05 Federico Tejera: Hello,

My name is Federico Tejera, Executive Media Buyer at Harren Media. We are a premium ad network looking to be able to partner with your company, working with you on the monetization of your properties in both your local and international traffic.
Our System rotates different kind of products and optimizes showing the creative's that better pays according to the audience behaviors.
We have a very rich client base with which we are helping Publishers monetize all of their inventories all the way to their last impression. We have a wide range of branding clients such as Danone, Kodak, Phillips among others and also a wide range of direct response clients such as Movistar (the number one telecommunications company in Spain and Latin America), Flycell, Celldorado, Vodaphone etc.
On the Publisher side we are already working with top Publishers such as MSN and Yahoo as well as with top Social Networks Facebook and Hi5. We also manage other sites similar to yours achieving excellent results.
I would like to discuss with you about this by phone, so if you can send me a phone contact or an E-mail, I’ll be talking to you shortly about our business proposal and possibilities.
Let me know if you consider this proper, when would be a good time to reach you.

Thanks in advance.
Hope to hear from you soon.

2008-09-05 [Hedda]: Better ads and more money? <img:stuff/$-sign-gif.gif>

I emailed him and we'll see if that's something to have. It would be nice with "art" and "game" categories instead of Google's ads that tend to be pretty irrelevant often.

2008-09-06 [Imperator]: You should make Elftown earn so much money that every member can recieve a monthly paycheck just for being a member. That would surely boost our numbers!

2008-09-08 [Hedda]: Harren Media apparently shows mostly ads for scammers and sites trying to fool people to send an expensive SMS to join a contest that probably is totally illegal and a scam. I'll have non of that on my sites, especially since it's more problem than getting money from Google who has pretty OK advertisers.

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